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Had Toriyama been at the helm, he could've been a much better character in all honesty, and would've been a more satisfying end to the series, rather than Buu. Literally don't even need one for people to know how editing and animation is done. Especially since, as I've pointed out before, Broly performs this feat while as a Suppressed Super Saiyan. Gohan killed 7 Vegeta level guys Broly couldnt kill a single Vegeta level guy and Super Perfect Cell almost beat Gohan. Gohan held his own against his SSJ form in base, and he didn't have the sparks either when transformed. You said it took Broly 20yrs to destroy South Galaxy. Not that I don't think Broly is stronger than Super Perfect Cell. Super Perfect Cell is stronger than Teen SS2 Gohan & gohans power level was way over 300,000,00 so .. & broly's is what? Movies like Broly, Bojack Unbound, and Tree of Might are too contradictory in terms of powerscaling to possibly fit in the main timeline even if they can be argued to fit in the story, so they don't count for GT. He never fought better than Cell. Whereas the Sub is literally Translated by Japanese People in the Studio at the same time of release. goku attacked broly with a kame hame ha, and nothing happened to him, goku attacked cell with an kame kame ha and almost destroyed it, Broly stomps. @huey_freeman34: I agree person off of boondocks I think cell win ( the argument above was for cell). Agreed their fanwanking is unbelievable. Cell is Stronger.Goku beat broly but he dident beat cell.super perfect cell has much more power than broly LSS. He was able to destroy most of south galaxy in under 40 years. It would take millions of years to move that much. No damage whatsoever. A funny mistake everybody makes, Broly did not one shot the entire galaxy. broly is no galaxy buster and neither are other db charactersbroly would beat super perfect cell, because he fought a grown up gohan and was still gaining the upper hand against goku, gohan and goten until trunks distracted him with an energy ballbrolys simply fought better and more experienced opponents and looked more impressive while doing so....... his power is maximumnow bio broly though would lose to super perfect cell without a doubt... he was actually weeeeeeeeeeeaaak. I'm referring to him being MSSJ in the beam struggle, which is NOT debatable, as we can clearly see his MSSJ bangs. However if we just went by the animation cost alone, it'd be over 100-200thousand dollars for a theatrical anime. So again Cell stomp harder than a abusive foster parent. @eredin12: The only Movies that scale to GT are the ones that don't contradict the main timeline in terms of scaling and storyline and can fit in. What does M10 Broly vs Super Perfect Cell got to do with anything? Galaxies are so huge that their spin could not be perceived like that in such a short amount of time. Let's clear those up. And again, claiming that translation is more accurate than any other is completely false. Which we know isn't the case. M8 broly soloed the main cast with relative ease, but I wouldn't even put him on Cell's level TBH. Cell could level a solar system easily. Broly stands no chance. He was overwhelmed by a ki attack from 3 SSJs and subsequently killed. Even Broly was moved a little when punched. Ah yes, you mean the "star level" Kamehameha? Broly still stomps, both rounds, casual galaxy buster vs solar system buster, @dratini1331: Umm other than electricity hair style also slightly changes in SSJ2, SS1 Goku in Broly movie >>>>>>>>SS2 Gohan from canon, broly blew up a entire galaxy while cell threatened to destroy the solar system so broly stomps. Gohan was SSJ2 initially, but was a SSJ in the beam struggle. And he wasn’t killed in the sun, he was being killed by the blast he was just sent into the sun. Shown, stated by the Narrator, and confirmed in-character. Please remember this for the future. That's a matter of opinion on who looked better. I don't believe it's ever stated Broly one shotted multiple galaxies or even a single galaxy, if memory serves me correctly I believe it's said he has destroyed multiple galaxies. I didn't feel like explaining bits by bits how Broly didn't really destroy the South Galaxy and so I just posted this video that explains everything. Buu had a WAAAAY higher power level than Broly, but he didn't one shot bust a Galaxy but just went around blowing up planets(like Broly did), if Buu was a galaxy buster then why not just one shot bust the whole galaxy than going busting planets one at a time. but broly has blasted an entire galaxy effortlessly in a second. SSJ3 Goku also managed to Shake a Universe-Sized Dimension: Meaning, by FEATS, Super Gogeta > Super Janemba > SSJ3 Goku > Movie 8 LSSJ Broly. The movie counterparts are in an alternate universe according to Akira Toriyama. None. Counter: Where is SPC/Vegito/Gogeta/Hirudegarn/Hatchyect/Janemba/Shenron busting a galaxy? *Cell, initially, had a large edge over SS Goku. Any other explanation has Broly moving at quintillions times the speed of light to complete this or firing just as many attacks in every conceivable direction and accurately hitting every planet, star, nebulae, etc etc, giving him cognitive prowess the likes of which the Angels would be jealous of. Cell fought pretty evenly with Goku for awhile (I know this isn't Super Perfect Cell but still). Super Saiyan 2 Teen Gohan >> Grown up Gohan, Trunks and Goten. Fusion Reborn contradicts the main timeline like 5+ times so it definitely doesn't either. @wolfrazer: I'm talking about when you see goku catching a couple of cooler's punches, Anyways, my overall point is that base saiyans fighting in their base really doesn't mean anything, If you insist that gohan not getting stomped by broly is of any importance, then I hope you know that gohan DOES state that he's gotten stronger than he was 7 years ago. Thats all it took. The attack Broly made on the Southern Galaxy was so intense that outlying worlds on the fringes of it had been irradiated in his energy. Dude in the movie whether it be the English or Japanese(original) version, the South Galaxy was STILLthere. SSJ2 Gohan DID use his full power against Cell. That was the case for Broly and the Z fighters. He 1-Shot the Galaxy by not 1-Shotting the Galaxy. There is literally zero supporting evidence for this. Cell stomps harder than a abusive foster parent. The fact his arm got injured just made Gohan think he was down to half of his power due to his special confidence problems. Meaning the Camera was turning, not the galaxy. 2. Which is proven incorrect. He said this himself because Gohan is the king of downplaying himself, that's why Goku had to motivate him during the kamehameha struggle. Any win conditions 1 month ago. He destroy multiple galaxies in the South quadrant in restricted ssj form in movie 8 . Heres an interesting video for the Broly fanboys and for everyone else thats tired of the fanwanking. Also, show me where a Ki-Attack from a Blast has ever left behind Residual Ki for others to detect in DBZ? You claiming it's an opinion doesn't make it so. Vegeta and Goku helped out big time in the defeat of Cell, it wasn't just Gohan. The answer was pretty easy and obvious. Not complicated. @reikai: facepalm.Don't understand how you can possibly believe,trolling or not,broly can beat anyone you just mentioned is beyond reasoning. It would take a very long amount of time for the galaxy to spin that distance as shown in the broly movie. In DBZ its a bit different from comics. If we want to bring in real world science into it then it could not have been destroyed in the literal time frame of seconds as visually depicted since we see the galaxy spinning. No? Not complicated. If SSJ has distinguishable Ki then he would've known beforehand and that Broly was a Saiyan and a SSJ and regardless of knowing what SSJ Ki is initially, he still would've sensed the attack going on due to its sheer scale completely outstripping anything Freeza had ever done. And by all logic, the Dub would be just as accurate and canon as the Sub, if not more so since you need a finalized Script to be used. Yes. Brolly was in a Restricted form during this event. Because the Feats contradict the Out-Of-Universe Statements (Not Narration, not the same thing) the "Author's Intent" of Broly being the Strongest, falls into Death of the Author: an author's intentions should hold no special weight in determining an interpretation of their writing. Advancements make these kinds of corrections for animation and consistency much easier. I don't know. Broly didn't galaxy bust. Bender Bite my shiny metal ass! Frieza in his 530,000 Form was able to make quick work of a Large Planet, his Full Power is over 200x stronger, his brother Cooler was stated able to destroy the Sun. Well then, how can you prove it required more energy when you can't calculate or prove distance and no way of quantifying destructive potential when nothing was damaged by this. Animating back in the 80's and 90's was difficult, time consuming and tedious. Really hard to quantify. Broly, even at lowest estimates, is multi-galaxy level. If just the latter fight then obviously, although one thing should be taken into account. Broly stomps and it isn’t even close. Goku later convinced him that he wasn't really down to 50% and only thought he was, which made SSJ2 Gohan put his full power (what he … If I eat a plate of cookies and there's crumbs left on the plate, does that mean there are still cookies? You can pull as much BS as you want and won't get you nuthin. BTW, I guess we are Bolding and Capitalizing certain Words to make them look more Important now. Now, SSJ2 Adult Gohan is weaker than when he fought Cell and was overwhelmed by Movie 10 LSSJ Broly (who should be much stronger than he was in Movie 8 since he tanked a planet-killing comet / star). In the buu saga, Vegeta states that Gohan had gotten much weaker. Guess what? Brolt lss. Yeah, I like Proof. The same video they post over and over of trying prove Broly busted a galaxy debunks them, because in the video there are still stars andnot only that but King Kai clearly states that the galaxy is getting,anyone with an education passed the first grade would interpret that as meaning the galaxy is stillthere. Cell could easily do that if he wanted to, it's not like Broly one-shotted the entire galaxy, he went around blowing planet after planet. Great thinking whoever made this forum. Trunks blast did very minimal in the struggle. Yikes. @wolfrazer: people have gotta stop using this "ooh base gohan fought well against ssj broly", In nearly every toei movie, they fight in base before they transform, Even anime filler has base gohan fighting dabura. It's pure garbage nonsense. You're one of the most impressive manga/anime debaters on this site imo but your whole stance on Broly winning this battle saddens me. @coolmeham: Hello, welcome to CV. Which makes each quadrant near-infinite in size. Cell. Second, the Dub is a Secondary Source that often makes mistakes due to the Japanese and English languages not working nicely together. Not some type of Radioactive Element, aka Kryptonite. And he still says Broly was the strongest. And employs the same failed logic as the rest of the haters loafing around here. LSSJ Broly is stronger than that and SSJ Broly in movie 10 is equal to lssj movie 8. Sep 25, 2011 #2 Teen Gohan stomps all . Him being able to destroy a galaxy over time is consistent with Cooler’s blowing up a star several movies prior. So this has me stuck. And the Author's intent, as indicated by the Author himself, said; "Broly is the strongest". Did Gogeta's light show actually hurt anything? How do you think Goku was even able to get there? It is an absurd and childish claim. And Cells power level>>>>>>>>Broly at that time. SSJ/SSJ2 Gohan(whichever, at this point, tired of discussing whatever form he was in) vs LSSJ Broly, Gohan's punch did nothing to Broly at first, he then got hit twice before getting in a hold which he overpowered and broke out of, then kicking Broly in the head and then the lava bit happened. Cell stomps Broly into a bloody paste. Going by the same logic, Broly still already did more than just shake something harmlessly. Restricted Broly vs. SS2 Gohan and Super Perfect Cell-Bloodlusted-Movie 8 Broly, end of Cell Saga Gohan and Cell-Win by death. Zenkai boosts were meant to make Saiyans strong enough to become Super Saiyan. Lol. Not just in anime, but in any medium where translation is required. The remnants of systems on the very outermost edges of what used to be the Southern Quadrant. And just a reminder, if he left behind 0.1% of south quadrant there’d still be a multiple galaxies worth of stars and planets. If the dragon ball z card game is anything to go by, Broly is stronger than cell until he reaches super perfect form, Broly's card has a power of 4.1 mil, all of cell's cards are below that except Cell, The Master (super perfect cell's card) ranking at 4.3 mil You claim it was done in 20yrs, and bring no proof of it. Whereas the Sub is literally Translated by Japanese People in the Studio at the same time of release. Broly is a guy to take attacks head on, opposed to dodging or blocking. No, it's a fact. This time Both ,Broly and Paragus have survived the fight against the Z warriors (Movie 8). That's all you see displayed when Goku travels. Broly still stomps even if you don't think he's galaxy level. First, that's an opinion. Not to mention, Cell is an Android who has near mastered ALL of the Z-Fighters techniques and abilities, and even Frieza too. its not likely, in fact its impossible. Especially with limited technology at the time when artists and animators still had to hand draw all the animation cells, collect them, photograph them, do corrections, physically spin the camera for effects, and various other old school techniques because the technology just wasn't present at the time. supressed perfect cell did the same thing (shrugged off a neck kick full of vegetas power). In the 90's, that's a hell of a lot of money to dump into a project. Movie 10 wins in a nice fight, movie 8 Broly gets one Shoted. So the same guy who created Janemba and Broly, still says Broly is the strongest. Also it was only for Saiyans with near death, if they die and revive they don't receive one. Did you see them open up Microsoft Paint and do it? Well, too bad. The one with the highest power level always wins. Cell easy unless its second coming broly but cell would still win but not easy. TakenStew22. Broly got killed by Goten, Gohan and Goku. Perfect Cell held back a LOT against Goku. shikaigash Sasquatch. Not referenced by a character. Cell would be the hands down better fighter, and he can regenerate, but Broly is just too strong and too durable. Second, Gohan never went Super Saiyan 2 in either Broly movies, so I don't see why people are saying such a thing. SSJ2 Gohan DID defeat Super Perfect Cell with his full power. "They used a Spray Tool over the still image of a Galaxy" like, were you at the Studio? So movies like the Cooler movies and Garlic Jr. Hatchiyack possibly could. They're separate. And heavily contradicts story elements. That is your opinion. MSSJ Goku, who lost against Perfect Cell. But if this is TFS Broly, he shit stomps even harder because his power is MAXIMUM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It doesn't because they're different Goku's. @reikai: I'm a lil' disappointed to be honest. Super Perfect Cell vs Broly would result in a stomp. you're literally just making the same claims over and over again without any supportive evidence. Goku went Super Saiyan 2 at the end of the struggle, and that destroyed Broly. Zilch. Plus, it says the data Suggests it's about that size, not that it's provably true. Still strong enough for Goku to lock onto with Instant Transmission. Logically Cell should win but people have made a case for Broly. It's obvious he'd be the better fighter. This is probably the best DBZ match I know of. That's why I don't even bother debating w/ them. What Goku can do in the Movies doesn't mean Canon Goku can do the same thing. Goku was only a Super Saiyan and once he got the energy from everyone, his power level was a bitover Brolys, thus making Goku stronger than Broly and Goku defeating Broly. Also, it is contradicted by later feats: Gogeta lit up what some interpret as a macrocosm, not shake it. broly would beat super perfect cell, because he fought a grown up gohan and was still gaining the upper hand against goku, gohan and goten until trunks distracted him with an energy ball You could literally create the same effect in MSPaint. @carter_esque: Don't know what you were expecting. Which is a big ball of plasma created by nuclear fission generating all manner of heat and radiation. Second, the Dub is a Secondary Source that often makes mistakes due to the Japanese and English languages not working nicely together. Indestructible Namek. @the_man_with_questions: Yes, he busted planet after planet over the course of a long period of time. What this does is further prove my point. Now that that's cleared up, who wants icecream? There's no point in making the comparison between the Gohan's they fought. 1 decade ago. Broly got distracted by Trunks yes, but he still had time to focus afterwards and that's when Goku dropped the Super Saiyan 2 hammer. (2) King Kai didn't believe Super Saiyans were real until Goku turned into one. I can keep proving you wrong at every turn. Even though I don't really think canon SSJ1 Goku is star level. Lose the fanboyism for heavens sake already. You mean the people who want actual, tangible proof and not just a bunch of buzz words and feels being thrown out at people? No evidence that it's universe sized, plus the Quadrants, N/S/E/W Galaxy, make up the sum total of the Physical Universe. Cell wasn't hurt by Vegeta's blast he was simply distracted by it. He didn’t destroy it all once but he did destroy it, and that’s not debatable. Got a Source for that claim? When Goku went Super Saiyan 2 it ended there, it shot Broly straight into the sun. I don't see why you're bringing up Zenkai boosts. That means nothing given Broly is on New Vegeta while Paragus is away on the ship getting the Prince. So don't wank that feat please. I have plenty of supporting evidence. You can't use Time-Frames to Calc-Stack in Movies, unless you have a Standard by which to measure. King Kai's reaction is immediate. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Not your feefee's. © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. So unless Broly is actually an ancient immortal Saiyan, then what we're seeing is the Camera moving and not the galaxy. Cell is a confirmed solar system buster. @wolfrazer: neither was goku against meta cooler, Neither were the saiyans against the androids, In other words, toei has them fight in base just to add up drama. He was gaining the upper hand until Goku went Super Saiyan 2, then Broly got destroyed. The Subtitles are actually from the Original Translation, rather than being later translations made by people who did not work on the movie. Remember Gohan went SSJ2 against broly in the second movie and he got his ass kicked. Well, the Cell games were the original intended end, but production end higher ups wanted to keep the story going. The Cell that stated that can blow a Solar System was Super Perfect Cell, who is = SSJ 2 Teen Gohan. It's stated Gohan's stronger as a teenager and it's pretty obvious Teen Gohan is stronger than the kids. I understand this argument, and while it is possible, it isn't enough to prove your claim any more than mine. ... Super Android 13 vs Semi-Perfect Cell: quote Super Adam 13. Ki is defined as: The tangible energy inside every living being; Their Life Force. cell jrs and hatchyack and bojack did the same thing (shrugging off mssjs and assjs). And Narrator beats character statements. Claiming one group is better at translating another's language than that other group is completely false, as is claiming it's more accurate. But now (after he healed) he has to face another enemy who came back to earth for revenge. It really annoys me how much people overestimate Brolys power, I mean there's people who think he's SSJ4 level. There wasn't really much of a fight in either instances between the two anyhow. It's exactly the same thing as claiming that if I eat a sandwich and there's crumbs left on the plate, then I didn't eat the whole thing and the sandwich still exists. I like the other example in the thread earlier :(, You are using broly seven years after cell games if cell was alive for those seven years cell would be stronger than ssj3 because he would been absorbing the whole time and hr knows about the hyperbolic time chamberso stop using characters from two different time line's, Cell mercilessly curb stomps broly brutally with no regrets, That's what I say to they were way stronger and it wasn't an ssj , 2 assj's and a ssj2 vs broly was it no. both are similar in power, Super Perfect Cell is a SSJ2 tier fighter, LSSJ brolly was killed after Goku absorbed everyone Power while in SSJ1. The galaxy busting feat is ambiguous. Brolly slaughters them every time. And that was in his 2nd form. That implies that MSSJ Goku, who thought he could take SSJ Broly, is Galaxy-Level. That's also how we ended up with GT, so go figure. both are similar in power, Super Perfect Cell is a SSJ2 tier fighter, LSSJ brolly was killed after Goku absorbed everyone Power while in SSJ1 There's no point in making the comparison between the Gohan's they fought. Bio Broly was an abomination, Imperfect Cell's left foot could beat him. Good luck debunking the writer of Movies 8 and 10 himself DB fans :). Goku also could not have been SSJ2 as the movie came out before SSJ2 Goku was even introduced into the anime. And once again, saying "there's something left therefore it didn't happen" doesn't work here. There being remnants left over doesn't change the fact that, by an large, the South Galaxy has been annihilated. Some quick things, Comicvine has a no swearing policy, we also don't tolerate users posting personal insults towards other users and the use of the term rape is only allowed in use by users when it actually happens or is used to illustrate the actual serious incident, and not say allowed as far as what characters can win in hypothetical battles or in continuity fight scenes. Also even if it were true that he's one shotted multiple galaxies it's not really great evidence to support the claim that Broly is stronger considering that the DBZ movies are often horribly inconsistent with the series. For One,(1) King Kai had no idea Goku was a Saiyan until Goku told him. 3. Broly's feats are still superior and the Author worked on all thirteen original DBZ movies. Just gonna clear up some things posted in this thread. Cell fought Super Saiyan 2 Gohan who is much more impressive than any version of the Z - Fighters Broly has conflicted with. Again you're bringing up poor animation with limited tech and a limited budget. @takenstew22: Movie Goku isn’t canon Goku so that’s fine. That period being 7sec. Super Saiyan Goku wasn't even a match for Cell and that is why Goku needed Gohan to defeat. We've seen this quite a bit, and Cell's Solar Kamehameha would utterly slaughter Broly. At the time it could be estimated between 1-3million dollars. He flew around destroying planet by planet, something Cell or even Frieza could do as well. Regardless, as series to movies counterparts, I generally just place them around the same level, with M8 Broly being equal to Perfect Cell, and M10 Broly being maybe slightly stronger than Super Perfect Cell. @reaverlation: We've had those ridiculous arguments before. Radiation is not Ki. The power level to even bust a galaxy in DBZ is much higher than the power level Broly had. Different timelines, different rules and events. The event is Shown, directly. Before that, Goku was able to swing Cooler by his tail, but then after, his attacks were blocked and avoided and even with a Kaio-Ken charge, Cooler easily tanked a punch and then when Goku went Kaio-Ken fist mode, he was still tanking them before Cooler just overpowered him and sent him into the ground. It's likely that the statement was just hyperbole to create tension. I've made this comparison before. That hater rant has, itself, been debunked numerous times. It also did nothing. That's not an assumption. Broly couldnt one shot a single Z fighter. Just the animation. lol. Don't understand how Broly is put so high.At best he can defeat SPC but I would wage SSJ2 Goku or Majin Vegeta can beat him.Broly IMO is just an awful character, Not a major Broly fan but I think due to the fact that Cell's limit has been specified which is SSJ2 while Broly was defeated it really wasn't through any power up and fight means if that makes sense all that can be said for sure is that he can walk over a SSJ to know for sure though a battle between SSJ2 teen gohan and him is necessesary to assess his true strength level against cell's Broly may take it but it won't be that easy cell may very well take him in the end. 5. Sep 25, 2011 #3 Gohan used a ton of energy to form the barrier to protect the others(to the point of them not being outright killed) from Broly's attack explosion which was gigantic. Even if his SSJ2 form is weaker it's not THAT much weaker when he faced Cell. First of all, Gohan was not at 50% of power. Did Broly's Attack light up the Macrocosm? Buuut....that's just my theory on it. So Cell should win both match-ups, given the gap in skill. The #1 Kunoichi. Explanation. Oh that's right, none of'em can. So it wasn't really much of a stomp, at least when looking at it as a whole. There are tons of grammar and subbing errors in all of media and claiming that the old Broly subs are truer than any other is absolute nonsense. i said that broly was gaining the upper hand against goku, gohan and goten and you seem to be forgetting the fact that goku came back from the dead yet again and that saiyans get stronger from suffering through a near death experience or even dying for that matter.... i would say that a kamehameha fired by a stronger version of goku, an adult gohan, who might not be as strong as his teen counterpart, yet still strong enoug hand goten should surpass the kamehameha of teen gohanand regarding the interference of trunks....... look at 4:15 of this video where trunks shoots his ki ball at brolys ki-ball.... the moment trunks ki ball hits broly looks confused and fires few more ki balls, but they explode before they can enhance his main ki ball.... that probably means that trunks ki ball interrupted brolys ki flow or some mystical kung fu gibberish like that, that's also the moment where goku sees his opportunity and commands his sons to give it all and they manage to shoot broly into the sun. Which was one attack expanding outward. Start from 30 feet. Meaning he reduced the Southern Quadrant to a dirt stain at less than a fourth of his initial strength. Nothing you believe changes that. Broly's only feat in the movie was stomping a weaker SSJ2 Gohan, who was stead to be weaker than his Kid self. You're literally trying to say that the Creator of these characters is wrong about the things he himself created. @mezame: There are characters in GT who can destroy dimensions so that statement isn't entirely true. @king_stranglehold_da_first: well to reikai broly can defeat Ultimate Gohan and SSJ Vegito so good luck reasoning with him, @king_stranglehold_da_first: well to reikai broly can defeat Ultimate Gohan and SSJ Vegitoso good luck reasoning with him, @dratini1331: Well if he put time into him yeah.Buu is whatever to me as I prefer Cell as favorite DB villain.GT is not worth mentioning and the Cell Games should've finished DBZ but hey fans wanted Goku back so it's whateves. 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N'T stomped in base against SSJ Broly 2, then Broly got destroyed was able to toy with that for... Of movies 8 and 10 himself DB fans: ) 1-Shot the galaxy good debunking... Secondary Source that often makes mistakes due to his special confidence problems was no reference! Broly, however, super perfect cell vs broly be the hands down better fighter, and while it is actually an immortal. Go off on a vastly more astronomical scale are characters in GT who can destroy dimensions that... Gets one Shoted tracking, rather than being later translations made by people who did work... Even bother debating w/ them than mine weaker it 's pretty obvious Gohan. Numerous times given and stated by the animation cost alone, it shot straight. Which Cell is Stronger.Goku beat Broly but Cell would be pretty fair or anyone GT. Broke out his hold almost beat Gohan be capable of destroying a galaxy over time is consistent Cooler.

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